Making a Molehill out of a Mountain

By Danni Moss
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One of the accusations hurled at me regularly regarding this blog is that I am over-exaggerating the seriousness of the situation of abuse in the church. I am told that the problems of both clergy sex abuse and domestic violence in the church are rare and limited to strange, extreme, non-mainstream churches.

I have addressed the fallacy of this assumption elsewhere on my blog, but another thought occurred to me today. To give a little bit of a picture of how big this “molehill” really is, here are some facts.

Click on the link in the right sidebar for “Protestant Clergy Sex Abuse in the News.” See how many pastors and church workers appear there. Now, remember that my collection is quite incomplete — I don’t find every news story. Also, by far, most instances of clergy sex abuse are never reported. Almost all of the ones I know about personally have never been reported.

Now, looking at the number of news stories about clergy sex abuse, consider that I talk to many people experiencing domestic violence in the church to every one of those clergy abuse news stories. And again, I’m only talking to the tiniest fraction of women and men experiencing domestic abuse in the church.

And every one of those people I talk to, and every one of those news stories, literally affects many, many other lives — and the well-being of future generations.

Now, there’s one other important step to this exercise. What is God’s perspective?

For just a tiny peak, here are a couple statements by Jesus.

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! — Matt. 18:6-7

The one who is giving offense is the church! Not all the church is giving offense, obviously. But it includes a large segment of mainstream Christianity, not a small set of fringe weirdos.

And God has more to say about what He thinks of this problem, in this same context…

Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. — Matt. 18:10-14

So, does it matter? Am I over-exaggerating the seriousness with which God views this?

Rather than me making a mountain out of a molehill, the church is making a molehill out of a mountain. We are so busy picking the splinter out of the world’s eye, we have utterly neglected the beam blinding our own.

21 Responses

  1. my wife and i were talking about the seriousness of what is going on in our churches today. Grace grace wonderful grace, why is that what is basically being preached? We don’t speak of the seriousness of sin we only hear that God forgives us. We don’t hear how God will discipline His children if they wander from the path, we only hear about how he welcomes us back if we ask forgiveness. All of His mercy is true, yet we make God out as a weak wimpy being that if we live as we want,”don’t worry God accepts you as you are”. That is so far from the truth, while we were in sin and lost God accepts us as we are, but once we are “saved” the bar gets raised. He expects us to live for His honor! churches wake up, stop tinkling the ears! read Revelations 2:1-7

  2. WELL if it was little molehill why aren’t the using their vast resources to bring some healing then? Ahem.

    Personally, if its just a small molehill and you look at how people deal with it? That’s a sad testimony for the church.

    I personally don’t understand that statement. So its a small number of people dealing with this …so its okay NOT to deal with it? (scatches head) NOPE – still doesn’t make sense.

    Pretty sad it makes sense to them.

  3. The last time I checked there was roughly 70 reported cases a week of clergy sexual abuse in Protestant churches. Those are just the reported cases.

    And one person suffering abuse is one to many.

    • So, that would be 3,640 accusations per year. Some of those will turn out to be false allegations – generally 1-3% if I remember correctly. So at the outside, that would still leave 3,531 credible accusations of Protestant clergy sex abuse per year. Then consider that MOST clergy sex abuse is never reported. And it is also rare that a clergy abuser has only one victim. So what number should we multiple that 3,531 by???

      Now multiple by what for domestic abuse? If my comparative ratios dealing with people personally are used as a general guide, you would have to multiple 3,531 by 10 to even start to get a glimmer of an idea. That would be at least 35,310 instances of domestic violence in Protestant homes per year. And each of those represents a family, not an individual, experiencing abuse; not just once, but as an ongoing way of life.

      These numbers are obviously not exact or scientific. But I know they are fairly accurately representative. This is what I’m seeing as reality from the inside actually working with this issue rather than pretending it doesn’t exist.

      Molehill anyone???

      — Danni

  4. In response to Danni. It seems that a good number of catholics view any investigation or criticism of how the church has handled the sex abuse by their priest as a attack on their faith.

    Despite all the evidence to the contrary, they claim only a miniscule number of priest abused and of those reported a good number were false accusations and steadfastly stand behind the very ones responsible for this black stain on the church, the bishops.

    Then they employ the diversion tactic to deflete from the “molehill” in their own church to cry about how bad it is in the secular world.

    Heaven forbid they should take their own leaders to accountability for even ONE of those “few” cases of abuse where there was no question of cover up and transferring predator priests to new feeding grounds without warning. And as long as the sheeple continue to defend the hierarchy there will be more abuses.

    Minimization of how widespread this cancer infects the church will only make things worse. This not just a mountain, it’s a volcano and it’s about to blow.

    I invite the “molehill” crowd to visit the website and take an objective look at the wealth of damning evidence of predator priests protected by you bishops for decades.

    One cannot point fingers at someone else’s backyard until they have made every effort to clean their own. And that includes indicting some of these bishops who protected those predators.

    Molehill indeed!

    Rick Springer

    • And Protestants love to look down their noses and call clergy sex abuse a “Catholic” problem or an issue resulting from celibacy. However, statistics tell another story — Protestant clergy are equally guilty, if not more so. This is a universal problem – not a “brand” specific issue. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with celibacy, or with sex for that matter. Sexual abuse is about power, control and domination – always.

      In fact, I would go so far as to say that the leadership that wants to sweep this issue under the carpet may well be just as addicted to power, control and domination as those for whom they are covering. How else can they possibly justify discarding the lives of those they have been commissioned to serve for the sake of — denial, politics… what???

      People in the pew may be ignorant — and for them sites like this are intended to take off the blinders. But the leadership in church hierarchy – of all “brands” – are without excuse.

      — Danni

  5. for daily vetted & verified reporting, in HARD EVIDENCE, that the pedophile cult and wholeslae global sexual assault of children, in the hundreds of thousands, is pervasive, massive, uncorrected, with Roman “La Cosa Nostra” Curia & USCCB (Unremoved Sexual Criminal Cabal Bishops) the real cause, as perpetrators, aid & abettors, enablers, obstructors of justice, embezzlers, perjurers, and racketeers.

    If a Cardinal or Bishop’s lips are moving, they are LYING.

    The Curia’s Motto Remains = ISAIAH 28:15!


    THE SOLUTION? “STOP DONATING LAITY” as St. Peter Damien correctly asserted.

    St. Paul to the Ephesians, 5:11, says: “Do not deal in fruitless deeds of darkness, but expose them”.

    So too Edmund Burke reminds each of us: “The only condition for the triumph of equal is for good men (or women) to do nothing!”


    Albino Luciani,
    NOT Smiling, From Heaven

  6. Please, let’s not forget the sexual abuse rampant in government schools, too. After all, these sexually abused students deserve just as much healing and compensation for their abuse as those abused under religious auspices. This abomination was recognized years ago, but the lawyering trade hasn’t done anything about it because no money was to be made by suing public school districts. Because negative publicity in the public educational sector isn’t de riguere, we seldom here of these cases in the media. Nonetheless, the following extracts represent a concern we should all be experiencing and lobbying to elected representative to take action on:

    Education Week article, 03/10/2004 “Sexual Abuse by Educators Scrutinized” – excerpt: “The best data available suggest that nearly 10 percent of American students are targets of unwanted sexual attention by public school employees—ranging from sexual comments to rape—at some point during their school-age years,”

    CBS news report, 08/24/2006 “Has Media Ignored Sex Abuse in sic, (Public) Schools?” – excerpt: “Consider the statistics: In accordance with a requirement of President Bush’s No Child Left Behind Act, in 2002 the Department of Education carried out a study of sexual abuse in the school system.

    Hofstra University researcher Charol Shakeshaft looked into the problem, and the first thing that came to her mind when Education Week reported on the study were the daily headlines about the Catholic Church.

    “[T]hink the Catholic Church has a problem?” she said. “The physical sexual abuse of students in (public) schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests.”

    Washington Post story, 10/21/2007 – excerpt: “There are 3 million public school teachers nationwide, most devoted to their work. Yet the number of abusive educators – nearly three for every school day – speaks to a much larger problem in a system that is stacked against victims.”

    • Ted:

      Schools, governmental institutions, child protection services, foster care, etc., have not, did not, and do not, continue to KNOWINGLY, with malice of forethought, created a ‘clear and present danger’ of transferring known pedophiles (6,000+ of 44,000 US ordained admitted to as “credible” such criminals, as
      thus far, only through litigation forcing them to, with at least double these sexual assaulters, still in active ministries, including the curia itself).

      These Roman Catholic clerical sexual child assaulters, over multiple decades, do not occur on an organized basis from secular insitutional or governmental agencies, with full consent and participation by the senior management, as did, and still does ocurs, by the Roman Catholic Church Curia’s Cardinals & Bishops on a MASS felonius, fraudulaent & racketeering basis.

      To date Ted, the criminal conduct and cover up of the curia, just in the USA, is at least $4.8 BILLION diverted laity offetory plate dollars, that are documented, with no end in sight or any real correction.

      WHY? Because the perpetrators wearing red hats ans miters that caused this have not been removed, nor punished.

      Today’s Roman Catholic Church is a global pedophile cult.

      And Ted, if in rare cases such public officials have done this, and it is discovered, these guilty are removed from office, and criminally and civilally prosecuted and/or behind bars, if convicted. Certainly NOT the case with the Roman “La Cosa Nostra” Curia.

      Ratzinger’s “proportionality” Ted is simple ethically, legally, & morally bankrupt! If Joseph Ratzinger tries to impose the punishments that he did on the pedo enabler & perpetrator Marciel of The Legion Of Christ, he will be poisoned or murdered, like me.

      It’a about the money, Ted, the laity’s.

      Your feable deflection Ted, is a page right out of the Rog “Mahal” Mahony, Bernard Law (less) & USCCB (Unremoved Sexual Criminal Cabal Bishops) PR Spin & Pedo Enabling Playbook.

      Get off the Kool-Aid Ted. What I’m saying is not “anti Catholic” either, I AM A Practicing Roman Catholic.

      At there are over 100+ recently published FACTUAL books on the subject, with overwhelming evidence as to the pervasive EVIL of the current Church office holders.

      Honest, Cogent & Salient authors include: Roman Catholic Bishops Jeffery Robinson of Australia, Thomas Gumbleton of the USA, and Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini of Milano, Italy, in the Summer 2008 issue of the UK’s THE TABLET.

      Other truthful authors include: Legal Scholar & Attorney Marci Hamilton; Phillip Lawler; Jason Berry; Dr. Robert Grant, MD; David Yallop; Fr. Richard Sipe; Dr. Leon Podles; Fr. Thomas Reese; SJ, Fr/Dr Howard Bleichner, SS; & Fr/Dr/Canon Lawyer Thomas Doyle, OP, to name but a very few.

      Ted, watch the 2006 US Academy Award BEST DOCUMENTARY nominated ‘DELIVER US FROM EVIL’, or the 2007 Cannes Film Festival Winner ‘VOWS OF SILENCE’, both on DVD, and tell me there is not an overt criminal will to defraud and endanger the laity and their children?!

      Read only a few days of vetted & verified coverage at and KNOW the only solution remains what St. Peter Damien correctly asserted: “STOP DONATING LAITY”.

      If one were to honestly evaluate how BAD & EVIL the rolling global pedo cult is in the current Roman Catholic Church, ‘1’ being minimal, ‘5’ being bad, and ’10’ being horrific, the current number on EVIL men like Aunt Teddie McCarrick, Rog “Mahal” Mahony, Bernard Law (less), Boy’s Club Francis George, Noberto “There Is No Crime In All Of the Mexican Church” Rivera, Sean “Shoeless & Clueless” O’Malley, Eddie “Gay Priest Lover Law Suit AIDS Death” Egan, Bobbie ‘Gay Orgies At St. John’s Seminary & Crisco Parties” Brom, Bill ‘Cover & Liw While Aid & Abetting’ Darth Leveda, Georgie
      “Seminary Lover Boys” Pell, etc., etc. etc., the number is a ’69’.


      Albino Luciani,

      • AL-

        You missed the whole point of my comment. Something must be done to bring closure to the grief and harm visited on public school students and their families because of sexual abuse by public school employees. To date there is no record that these students and their families have been in anyway compensated.

        Your rant demonstrates you are on a personal mission given the fact you take every opportunity to post ad infinitum your lunatic drivel on any and every website that features articles relating to sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

        You should really cool it, AL, because you are making an utter nuisance of yourself. It appears you are off your meds. Obviously, St. Pete is falling down on the job by failing to monitor your moods? Someone up there needs to take you in hand and start seeing that you resume taking your prozac or cymbalta.again. I write this in all charity, AL, because I’m worried about your fitness to serve even albeit as a dead pope.

        • Albino Luciani is doing one terrific public service in helping to expose, in his own inimitable way, the antics of the gang of arrogant, condescending, avaricious (EXTREMELY avaricious!), self-involved, entitled queens who have taken over the institutional church.

          Viva Il Papa Morto!

        • hrh –

          You need to lay off the thesaurus. You’re trying to hard.

        • Personal commentary is off-topic, irrelevant, and unproductive. Please don’t.

          — Danni

    • So what are you saying Ted? I dont understand why people wish to divert in this manner. We are talking about one subject, but lets attempt to show its worse somewhere else.

      Is the church any less accountable that way? You do realize that is how it makes it look right?

      Goodness knows there are alot of cruel things that happen within school districts. No one is going to say differently. Even if you could show me how they moved teachers/staff around to different schools to HIDE the illegal act like other churches (besides catholics as well) do – does that make them any less accountable? Do you think God will say, “I see. The public schools do this also. We can lesson the consquences now.’ I mean COME ON!

      The church is suppose to stand on Christian principals. They are to be held to God’s standards. When they mininize that, divert from that, and NOT stand up to the consquences of failing when it does happen … they crush what God intended for them. They are no longer that beckon of hope, peace and safety. They are hyprocrites if they tell others to deal with their consquences, and can’t admit their sin. You can’t ask something of others that you aren’t willing to do yourself on this moral stand.

      The church can have all kinds of backbone when it comes to other’s sins, but they wishy washy on their own…and enable others to come along side of that. God is not pleased. It spits in his face when it comes to the standards he asks them to strive for.

  7. One priest over his life time as a priest grooms and Spiritually Murders 100’s of children. Add those few you say abuse and it’s quite a number. Catholics are the ones who have been hiding this for centuries but the “instant communication” of the internet has done them in. We now know and we’re after them !! One and all. I agree with Albino Luciani, the murderd Pope. He is right.

  8. Family members and close friends are the majority of abusers according to teh Dept of Justice.
    We live in a country where a few hundred thousand fetus’ are murdered each day but dare we show loving but firm discipline to teens that are so damaged by their own crisis’ or victimization is wrong.
    Discipline in it’s truest form teaches respect of boundaries in a world that sets them farther and farther back. Obedience and service is required of God and if nobody teaches this to the children what chance of a future that is pleasing to Him? That is what this is really about in my opinion. Jesus Christ was the only good man that ever lived and committed no sin and they crucified him. Will HH’s ministry be left alone in a world of the lost. Jesus said that they hated him before they hated his disciples and so they shall hate us too for no man is greater than the master. I took the time to read through the news items in your area of Indiana. You have had meth busts, killings and far more menacing threats on the streets of Warsaw then a group of ladies being taught to love Jesus.

    • Lorraine,

      This post has almost nothing to do with HH – you appear to be attempting to make a comparison of apples and sidewalk chalk.

      As for family members and friends being the majority of abusers, this statement is correct. That would put “church family” and the trusted leaders there smack dab in the middle of the abuser pool.

      Your understanding of discipline is actually not correct. Discipline is not teaching boundaries. That would be one very small part of discipline. Discipline is about teaching and training in desired behavior. It is NOT to be confused with punishment and is not limited to teaching boundaries.

      Also, obedience and service are not “required by God” under the New Covenant. This is one of the basic tenets of the OLD COVENANT, which the church is still clinging to. Jesus said all the law and prophets can be summed up in two laws – love God and love your neighbor. The book of John is rich in describing the NEW Covenant, where we love Him because He first loved us and gave Himself for us. Because we love him in return, we obey and serve as a natural byproduct of that relationship. If we genuinely love Him we will obey and serve Him – but not because it is required. This is a critical foundational misunderstanding which affects everything else. Obedience and service toward God are not forced, mandated, or manipulated in any way, by anyone – period. Obedience and service are byproducts of loving relationship, taught over time (discipline – not punishment; just training). Any other way of “teaching” or “requiring” obedience and service will ultimately fail because they are not God’s way, outlined in His Word. All the rest lead only to legalism and spiritual death — regardless of what appears to be immediate conformity.

      Putting HH in the middle of this, as if it is the last beacon of Christ in a wicked world, is so extraordinarily out of proportion. Then quickly adding on talk of persecution, lets me know you’ve been listening to Ron Williams. Those who are against him are evidence of persecution for righteousness. This includes turning everything in the country, in the news, and every other thing happening so that it revolves around “the work of God we are doing.” This is a very serious indication of problems – which are far too complex to get into in a comment field — especially on a thread which has nothing whatsoever to do with HH. It is not all about HH — there are other issues, unrelated, which are important to God, too. Crime happens everywhere — and making this about “extreme crime” vs. “a group of ladies being taught to love Jesus” — as if those were the two dichotomous issues in the world — is grossly imbalanced.

      I am not going to attack your personal decisions with your daughter. You will notice that I have not replied to your original comment. You are entitled to your opinion. However, you are not entitled to derail other posts on my blog or attempt to engage me in debate, especially off topic. Please be considerate of this boundary.

      — Danni

  9. Lorraine, you are DELUSIONAL, no where in society is 10% to 20% of the adults, pedophiles, and child sexual abusers, like the Roman “La Cosa Nostra” Curia and Clergy.

    The Roman Catholic Church is a Pedo Cult; donate to it, and you are endorsing it, and committing a MORTAL SIN.


    Albino Luciani,

  10. mortal sin is a fallacy created by the catholic church. God says sin is sin. when you break one part of the law you have broken all of it. all sin is serious!!

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