Gender Roles: Are Complementarians Traditionalists?

Jocelyn Anderson, author of the book Woman Submit! featured in my left sidebar, has written an insightful post on her blog (linked in my blogroll), called Complementarians NOT Traditionalists? Hogwash!

One of the things I find frustrating about the complementarian movement, Vision Forum, Eagle Forum, Bill Gothard et.al., the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, True Woman, etc. is how the roots of these organizations within a larger movement are shrouded in mystery and utterly unquestioned. Because “all” the “big names” appear to think this whole thing is just straight from God’s mouth to our ears, no one questions what is being taught.

In the article Jocelyn takes apart just one point in the tangled ball of yarn that is the truth and roots of this movement. And a powerful point it is! It is so important for us as believers to be truly aware. Being Bereans is the responsibility of us all – and that must include digging into where these assumed “truths” are coming from and what their roots are. And unfortunately it is such a convoluted mess it can be hard to sort the threads. Jocelyn is doing just that, and this is a very informative piece of the puzzle.

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Supreme Court Upholds Gun Ban for Abusers

In a decision yesterday, the Supreme Court upheld a gun ban for abusers, by a landslide 7-2 vote.

This was an important decision with distinct ramifications. The linked article is moderately comprehensive and gives a lot of good information about it.

I found it interesting, as well, to see one of the quoted vocal defendants of the attorney attempting to overturn the ban. Phyllis Schlafly spoke out adamantly in defense of overturning the ban. However, her reasoning appears to suggest that former offenders should not have to experience the full consequences for their actions. Her statement also minimizes the significance of “just one” domestic abuse incident.

This is from the linked article:

“Why are men with clean histories except for one domestic dispute punished like hardened criminals who mug strangers on the street?” wrote Phyllis Schlafly. She wrote a brief in support of Hayes and continues, “The answer is that the feminist agenda calls for domestic-violence laws to punish husbands and fathers above and beyond what can be proven in court under due-process procedures.”

Is “one incident” all there is to abuse? Physical violence is just one symptom of the real issue. I have addressed this topic elsewhere on this blog (and can’t find it to link! – Help?)

Of course, it doesn’t go amiss to point out that I also saw an article today about another woman being shot to death by her abuser outside her church.

Vision Forum, Bill Gothard, Patriarchy & Multigenerational Faithfulness

By Danni Moss
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There are whole knotted piles of interconnected issues here that I have been wanting to write about. I grew up in this theology before it was mainlined by groups like Vision Forum, and touted in a large segment of the Christian homeschooling movement and hand-holding organizations such as the Counsel on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, the True Woman movement, parenting gurus such as Gary Ezzo and the Pearls, etc.

This ideology is what God rescued me out of after I experienced its natural conclusions. I speak from the position of someone who completely believed it all – 100%. But as I followed a personal walk with God, He tore away the facade and showed me the truth of the underbelly of the leadership and why the ideals espoused by them are against God’s Word and violate His heart which is plainly revealed in the Word.

But writing about it is quite a daunting task! It is such a tangled web of anti-Biblical theological perversions, made that much more complicated by it’s wide acceptance among mainline Christian leaders.

I have to say there are also some mainline Christian voices which do not agree with this philosophy. Dr. James Dobson is one such notable individual, though he occasionally appears to flirt with the edges of it – perhaps without realizing the connection and interrelation of certain ideas.

However, there is a writer who has taken on the task of addressing these issues. This author does such an excellent job of digging into the theology and history of this movement, ideology and the individuals involved, I can hardly aspire to her level of detail and comprehensive depth. So I am linking to some of her articles.

I also strongly recommend reading the other materials on her sites. One of the things that I appreciate most about Cindy’s work is that it is scholarly. This isn’t rants and raves against a movement. She focuses on the truth and goes to great lengths to demonstrate the fallacies of these theological systems.

I also encourage everyone to actually study the information she writes and links to about the types of wrong logic and indoctrination used by people within Christianity to support destructive theological practices. These are very powerful. It is not without significant relevance that these groups use the same tactics practiced by cults, dictators, and propaganda experts. Only if Christians do it, they call it “renewing the mind” instead of brainwashing! Hijacking and misusing Biblical terminology does not change the truth of what they are actually doing.

Overview of the Web of Multigenerational Faithfulness

Origins of the Term

The Spiritual Eugenics of Multigenerational Faithfulness: More Social Darwinism

The Layers of Extra-Biblical Belief Underneath Multigenerational Faithfulness and the 200 Year Plan”

Is Wilson Pro-Abortion or Just Following Multi-Generational Faithfulness?

Do New Testament Believers Become the New, Physical Seed of Abraham, Propagating the New Israel Nation of Christians Through the Womb?

Lack of New Testament Support for Multigenerational Faithfulness

Return of the Daughters, Multigenerational Faithfulness and Uncle Ned

The Selfish Sin of Shyness: A Deterrent to Multigenerational Faithfulness

First Time Obedience and Unquestioned Submission as an Essential Component of Multigenerational Faithfulness Part I: Parental Convenience

First Time Obedience and Unquestioned Submission as an Essential Component of Multigenerational Faithfulness Part II: Spiritualizing all Activities

Part II Addendum: Spiritualizing All Activities, First Time Obedience, Multigenerational Faithfulness and Unquestioned Obedience

First Time Obedience and Multigenerational Faithfulness, Part III: Poor Development of Analytical Thought and Problem-Solving Skills

First Time Obedience and Unquestioned Submission as an Essential Component of Multigenerational Faithfulness Part IV: Theological Concerns

RC Sproul, Jr’s Take on Multigenerational Faithfulness: “When You Rise Up”

Thoughts on Fear-Based Obedience: It is Hollow not Holy